Zitat von David8;72120There you go Lloyd.....all you need is a good negotiator..........
Jud, has that list been updated in the last 6 months?
I guess I was out by one or two cars then
That list is THE list. There were many mistakes with the original list that's been floating around.
Zitat von David8;72117Yes, that B12 was the Sultan of Brunei's.
Apparently he owns/owned
48 850i's + 4 850Ci's + 2 850 CSi's + 1 B12
Just so everyone is on the same page, here's the vetted tally of the Sultan's car posted from 10/2006 and last year:
This is believed to be D200054, number 54.
However, there is some private debate about this car within the 8er community.
Kees, the Alpina Registry Agent, and myself believe it to be Nbr 54 based on many pieces of evidence. However, there is an opinion out there that this car's equipment is slightly off what should be for this vehicle.
http://www.alpina-archive.com/?p=1572
The last time this car was for sale, 12/2007, it sold within 3 days. There are several private conversations in progress about this vehicle. Attached is the listing from 12/2007. Please do not re-publish this listing in other forums as 8er.org is a private forum and these documents are for your use, not to be re-published at other forums.
P.S. Koenig Dave - please avoid cross-posting at Bimmerforums about this vehicle being discussed at 8er.org until more information is made available and verified. Thank you in advance.
Very good news.
I see 8er baby seats in your future.
Zitat von David8;72063
Judd, is this for real?
Who's Judd?
Is that someone else you're referring to?
(hint: you and I have talked about this before)
Yes, this car is legit.
For everyone else --- a gentle reminder: avoid asking/paging me to comment on a car in a public/private forum. I'm seldom online anymore because of outside commitments. If you want to know something about a car, contact us at the Registry with the URL link to the ad for assistance:
http://www.8coupe.com/contact.htm
Happy New Year!
Controversy surrounds Synter conversions and the continuous religious claims that they are true Alpinas.
http://www.8er.org/forum/showt…p?t=7040&highlight=Synter
http://www.8er.org/forum/showt…p?t=8291&highlight=Synter
http://www.m5board.com/vbullet…b12-5-0-a.html#post518150
Synter did do some Alpina conversions from 1991 to 1992, but halted them (this is a long story). They do not have the complete Alpina package/treatment.
Simply put, they are not true Alpinas, do not have the unique Vehicle Identification Numbers, etc. They may have the Alpina B12 5.0 tuned engine and other mechanical bits, but that's about all there is to them. They are ordinary M70 cars with some upgrades.
Yes, there is an Alpina plate with this car: 9430. The plate is out of sequence for the 1 of 97 classifications that Alpina has assigned true B12 5.0 coupes. The number 9430 may be a point of showing authenticity of materials used to make this a clone B12 5.0.
This particular car was discussed several years ago here:
http://www.8er.org/forum/showpost.php?p=29175&postcount=7
The Registry archives are rich in details on this car and we're constantly asked about it.
In summary, this car is recorded in the BMW 8 Series Registry and the Alpina Registry as a unique car, but it's pedigree is in serious question. Want a true B12? Make sure it was built in Buchloe and it has the proper credentials. That will greatly contribute to its long term valuation. All Synter conversions tracked by the Registry for sales since 2003 show a sales price more similar to a well kept standard base 850i.
Zitat von sparklesmcgraw;70170Correct me if I am wrong but this car doesn't look like Estoril blue?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1301761.htm
Quite a few 8ers still popping up for sale which is surprising as there are so few on the road.
Yes, it is Estoril Blue. Lousy color pictures.
Chassis nbr CC66823:
Colour SONDERLACKIERUNG (490)
Upholstery LEDER NAPPA/SCHWARZ (M5SW)
Prod. date 1997-09-15
Order options
No. Description
245 STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT ELEC
337 M SPORTS PACKAGE
353 ANTI-GLARE STRIP FRONT + RR WINDOW
401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC
423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR
428 WARNING TRIANGLE
431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W MEMORY F DRIVER
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
500 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYS/INTENSIVE CLEANING
528 AUTOMATIC AIR RECIRCULATION CONTROL(AUC)
669 RADIO BMW BUSINESS RDS
676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM
694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER
704 M SPORT SUSPENSION
710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE
775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE
782 M LT/ALY WHEELS SYSTEM II
812 ENGLAND VERSION
850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT
863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY
877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION
880 ENGLISH/OWNERS HANDBOOK/SERVICE BOOKLET
Series options
No. Description
216 SERVOTRONIC
243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
806 3RD STOP LIGHT
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
Individual data
Processing individual
Sign "individual"
490 Color
Paintwork "estorilblau-metallic" (code 335)
Bonjour;
http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAP…iewItem&item=400078209406
Cette voiture a été pour la dernière fois 12/2007. Il est en vente à nouveau sur eBay. Cette 850CSi a rembourrage spécial.
Vehicle information
VIN CC02157
Type code EG91
Type 850CSI (EUR)
Dev. series E31 ()
Line 8
Body type COUPE
Steering LL
Door count 2
Engine S70
Cubical capacity 5.60
Power 280
Transmision HECK
Gearbox MECH
Colour COSMOSSCHWARZ METALLIC (303)
Upholstery SONDERPOLSTERUNG/OHNE FARBANGABE (Z1XX)
Prod. date 1996-07-16
Order options
No. Description
243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC
428 WARNING TRIANGLE
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W MEMORY F DRIVER
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
528 AUTOMATIC AIR RECIRCULATION CONTROL(AUC)
623 CAR TELEPHONE(GSM)
658 RADIO BMW BUSINESS CD RDS
676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM
710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
773 WOOD TRIM
811 BELGIUM VERSION
841 OPTION CODE PACKAGE PSEUDO-CODE-NO.
877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION
Series options
No. Description
216 SERVOTRONIC
237 DYNAMIC DRIVE PACKAGE
245 STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT ELEC
540 CRUISE CONTROL
548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING
806 3RD STOP LIGHT
Individual data
Remaining interior trim: N4SW
Processing individual
Sign "individual"
Z1XX Upholstery
Folgender Umfang ist in Leder Montana sattelbraun (Nr. 8 200 352)
darzustellen:
Restliche Innenausstattung wie bei Leder Nappa schwarz, Schl.Nr. N4SW
Cc70180
This vehicle was discussed 9-July-2009 here:
Ce véhicule a été discutée 9-Juillet-2009 ici:
http://www.8er.org/forum/showpost.php?p=66364&postcount=152
Also, the Inventory Project: http://www.8coupe.com/about1.htm
Zitat von JEAN-MARC;69378J'ai reçu 3 nouvelles photos de mon ami qui est à DUBAI.
J 'y retourne pour les vacances de la TOUSSAINT j'irai faire un safari photos dans les casses (c'est trop fort la bas).
CC70180:
1994 M70 850CiA - Middle East version
Colour: KASCHMIRBEIGE METALLIC (301)
Upholstery: LEDER NAPPA/PERGAMENT HELL (M5PH)
Prod. date: 1994-10-06
Zitat von 330newbie;66173Was on Ebay about 2 weeks back -- auction "ended" a couple of days prior to scheduled close. I think last legitimate bid was £7100.
The auction was closed because the car was "supposedly" sold.
You can see the auction here:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayI…iewItem&item=300320978200
Yes, the last bid was £7100 (click on bids even though it says "0", you can see what they were before the auction was pulled)
With a dealer now selling the car, it's anticpated that one of three things happened:
Zitat von mattsimis;66085
Hello Matt;
This vehicle is a bonafide CSi in FJORDGRAU METALLIC (310). This car is often confused with this other car, chassis CC88030, previously discussed in this forum here:
http://www.8er.org/forum/showt…?t=6338&highlight=CC88030
This vehicle is CC88029.
If you want more information, then please contact me via the contacts page here:
http://www.8coupe.com/contact.htm
Breathtaking price.
Thank you for the update. We'll add it to the salvage registry.
That is weird. The ad was pulled from both PistonHeads and eBay. On eBay it gives "sold" implication explanation for the auction closing.
*** Update ***
This 850CSi, CC88169, was for sale and sold last year ( June 2008 ).
The current owner has placed this vehicle for sale here after a 11 month ownership:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1094619.htm
Our prior discussion regarding this vehicle can be found here:
http://www.8er.org/forum/showt…?t=6997&highlight=CC88169
For the salvage registry, please help us get the last 7 digits of the VIN.
Thank you for thinking of the Salvage Registry. We are always on the lookout for tracking any 8er.
Another UK-based 8er owner got me the VINs for both cars a couple of weeks ago.
Link to cars: http://www.fabdirect.com/default.asp?id=214
CC66924 - Arctic Silver - 1997 840CiA Sport
Colour ARKTISSILBER METALLIC (309)
Upholstery LEDER NAPPA/SILBERGRAU HELL (M5SH)
Prod. date 1997-11-06
Order options
No. Description
245 STEERING COLUMN ADJUSTMENT ELEC
337 M SPORTS PACKAGE
401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC
423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR
428 WARNING TRIANGLE
431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W MEMORY F DRIVER
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
500 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYS/INTENSIVE CLEANING
528 AUTOMATIC AIR RECIRCULATION CONTROL(AUC)
540 CRUISE CONTROL
669 RADIO BMW BUSINESS RDS
676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM
694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER
704 M SPORT SUSPENSION
710 M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE
775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE
782 M LT/ALY WHEELS SYSTEM II (Throwing Stars)
812 ENGLAND VERSION
850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT
863 EUROPE/DEALER DIRECTORY
877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION
880 ENGLISH/OWNERS HANDBOOK/SERVICE BOOKLET
Series options
No. Description
216 SERVOTRONIC
243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
806 3RD STOP LIGHT
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
CC66068 - Estoril Blue - 1996 840CiA (not a sport)
Colour ESTORILBLAU METALLIC (335)
Upholstery LEDER NAPPA/SILBERGRAU HELL (M5SH)
Prod. date 1996-04-11
Order options
No. Description
243 AIRBAG FOR FRONT PASSENGER
255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
298 BMW LM RAD/TURBINENSTYLING
353 ANTI-GLARE STRIP FRONT + RR WINDOW
401 SLIDING/VENT ROOF, ELECTRIC
428 WARNING TRIANGLE
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W MEMORY F DRIVER
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
500 HEADLIGHT WASHER SYS/INTENSIVE CLEANING
669 RADIO BMW BUSINESS RDS
676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM
694 PREPARATION FOR CD CHANGER
812 ENGLAND VERSION
850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT
877 DELETION CROSS-OVER OPERATION
961 SPECIAL ENGINE
Series options
No. Description
216 SERVOTRONIC
537 PARK VENTILATION
806 3RD STOP LIGHT
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
Zitat von koenig dave;64099at pistonheads. http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1031690.htm cc88069
Prod date: 15-Apr-94
Exterior: ORIENTBLAU METALLIC (317)
Upholstery: LEDER NAPPA/SILBERGRAU HELL (0497/N4SH)
This is a common colour combination for the 850CSi. This particular vehicle was duplicated several times for the UK market with the same colours and equipment. There are a few UK people interested in the car and contacted the Registry.
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In continuing the recurring theme of sharing information about rare 8's, here's one that just appeared for sale that has a one-off colour combination configuration:
Chassis: CB72937
Build Date: 7-Dec-90
Exterior Colour: STERLINGSILBER METALLIC (244)
Upholstery: LEDER NAPPA/PERGAMENT (0356/M5PE)
More info and pictures here:
There were two M70 850iA's in this colour combo:
- this vehicle, a 1991 LHD M70 850iA; and
- a 1991 RHD M70 850iA delivered to the UK
In the early 8er production years, there were instances where customers wanted different standard exterior colours combined with different standard upholstery colours. For the North American market, BMW North America put together the standard exterior/interior colour combinations in their marketing materials. For example, a standard colour combo was Schwarz (086) with Schwarz Leather (0226/M4SW). Sterling Silver was not available with Parchment upholstery, however both were standard offerings. The original owner of this car wanted to have a different colour combination than what was offered, but it was within standard offerings, so all that had to be done was to match that up and fine-tune the BMW ordering process.
