Posts by Christoph
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Ein bisschen angeheitert liefen wir der Strandpromenade entlang und begutachteten die noch alten Fährschiffe im Wasser
- Bei der Seilbahnstation bogen wir noch kurz in den Mercato ab mit den Ess-Ständen im Innern
- Natürlich haben wir noch ein klein wenige gefuttert und etwas getrunken
- Danach ging es direkt zur Seilbahnstation und wir führen über der Uferpromenade direkt in die Höhe des Jardim do Morro
- Wir überquerten danach die Brücke auf der oberen Etage und gelangten durch die Gassen mit vielen Restaurants und Sovenieurläden wieder zur Station Bento
- Wir waren da auf dem Weg zu unserem Abendessen und suchten die Busstation 201 zum Mercato Bom Successo
- In Portugal ist der ÖV nicht so gut ausgebaut, man findet weder Schilder noch Hinweise, wo sich diese Busstationen befinden
- Auch das Touristik-Info wusste nicht Bescheid und so bemühten wir unsere NAVIs mit Google Maps, Apple Karten und nach gefühlten 30 Minuten und einem weitem Fussmarsch haben wir die Busstation gefunden
- Die Busfahrt führte uns wieder durch den Statdverkehr und wir gelangten nach einer halben Studen und 16 Stationen an den Mercato
- Dort genehmigten wir und ein Bierchen und danach haben wir uns einen grossen Tisch in der Halle gesucht und jeder konnte sich sein Futtern an den vielen Ständen selber zusammenstellen
- Der grossen Busbahnhof neben dem Ess-Tempel ermöglichte uns den direkten Weg ins Hotel
- Danach besuchten wir noch das selbe Steak-House wie am Vorabend und genehmigten uns noch einen Absacker.
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Der Weg führte uns an der wunderbaren Uferpromenade Cais da Ribeira über die untere Brücke auf die andere Uferseite.
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29. Mai 2024 - Dienstag- Tag 12
Das Frühstück im Hotel in Porto war okay, die Auswahl aber nicht so gross. Gestärkt marschierten wir vorbei an unseren 8er in Richtung Bushaltestelle.
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An der Busstation angekommen hatten wir dann den Bus bis nach Estacion Sa Bento genommen. Die Busfahrt dauerte fast eine Stunde anstelle von 16 Minuten. Der Busfahrer fuhr durch unzählige Baustellen und überall hatte sich der Verkehr gestaut. Zum Glück war das Wetter mal wieder prächtig...
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Also schnurstracks in einen schöne Wirtschaft und schnell war das 0.5L Panasche (Radler) auf dem Tisch.
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Hier ist das Programm
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The topic is currently being discussed in the 8er-Freunde Whatsapp group. Here is a brief summary:
There are 4 vehicles listed in the group with a V12 engine with a displacement of 6.0 liters . Stephan from the Czech Republic owns one with an automatic gearbox.The content cannot be displayed because you do not have authorisation to view this content. The content cannot be displayed because you do not have authorisation to view this content. The content cannot be displayed because you do not have authorisation to view this content. The second one belongs to a French restaurateur. The vehicle was stolen many years ago and then found again. The vehicle is now probably in the Frenchman's Portuguese summer residence.
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The fourth is supposedly still in the family, but the color is unknown.
I had a quick look on ChatGPT and asked the following question:
- How many BMW 850 by Hartge H2s were made and in what color? Are any technical details known?
and got the answer:
- The Hartge H2 is a modified version of the BMW 850i, developed by the tuning company Hartge. Only 15 examples of the Hartge H2 were produced in total. Most of these vehicles are painted in an eye-catching color called “Hartge Blue”, but there are also some in other colors, such as black or silver.
Technical details of the Hartge H2 include a power upgrade to the V12 engine, which produces around 400 hp, as well as various modifications to the chassis and aerodynamics to improve driving dynamics. These vehicles are known for their combination of luxury and sporty performance.
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Das Thema wird gerade in der 8er-Freunde Whatsapp-Gruppe diskutiert. Hier eine kurze Zusammenfassung:
In der Gruppe werden 4 Fahrzeuge angegeben mit einem V12-Motor mit 6.0 Liter Hubraum . Stephan aus Tschechien besitzt einen mit einem Automatik-Getriebe.
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Der Vierte ist angeblich immer noch in Familienbesitz, die Farbe ist aber nicht bekannt.
Ich habe noch kurz ChatGPT bemüht und folgende Frage gestellt:
- Wie viele BMW 850 von Hartge H2 sind hergestellt worden und in welcher Farbe? Sind auch technische details dazu bekannt?
und als Antwort gekriegt:
- Der Hartge H2 ist eine modifizierte Version des BMW 850i, die von der Tuning-Firma Hartge entwickelt wurde. Insgesamt wurden nur 15 Exemplare des Hartge H2 produziert. Die meisten dieser Fahrzeuge sind in einer auffälligen Farbe namens "Hartge Blue" lackiert, aber es gibt auch einige in anderen Farben, wie Schwarz oder Silber.
Technische Details des Hartge H2 umfassen unter anderem eine Leistungssteigerung des V12-Motors, der auf etwa 400 PS kommt, sowie verschiedene Modifikationen am Fahrwerk und an der Aerodynamik, um die Fahrdynamik zu verbessern. Diese Fahrzeuge sind bekannt für ihre Kombination aus Luxus und sportlicher Leistung.
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Ist eigentlich bekannt wieviele es von den Hartge Fahrzeugen gab?
Was haben die Fahrzeuge für einen Wert im Sammlermarkt? Sind solche Umbauten interessant oder Spielkram? Cool ist ja immer wenn ein Tuner seine eigene VIN hat. Haben die Koenig und AC-Schnitzer Fahrzeuge ebenfalls eine eigene VIN?
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Is it actually known how many of the Hartge vehicles there were?
What value do the vehicles have on the collectors' market? Are such conversions interesting or just a bit of fun? It's always cool when a tuner has its own VIN. Do the Koenig and AC-Schnitzer vehicles also have their own VIN?
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Mit massiver Verspätung fuhren wir in Richtung Auroca, der längsten Hängebrücke der Welt.
Ehrlich gesagt sind wir durch die sehr kurvige Gegend gerast. Die Strassen Markierungen, Schilder und Wegweiser zu diesem Monument hatten wir vergeblich gesucht. Die NAVIs von Garmin, Apple Karten und Google Maps haben die Bücke nicht gefunden. Echt schlecht gemacht für die längste Hängebrücke der Welt.
Wir wurden vom NAVY anhand von Koordinaten aus dem Internet auf einen Parkplatz gelotst und weit und breit war keine Brücke sichtbar noch eine dazu notwendige Schlucht. Nach einer kurzen Diskussion in unserer Gruppe fuhren wir dann weiter und irgendwo hatten wir unseren 8er geparkt und an einer Türe geklingelt. Die freundliche Dame hatte uns dann gesagt, wir sollen direkt durch ein Fahrverbot auf einem Feldweg zur Brücke fahren. Die Brücke sei noch ein paar Kilometer entfernt von uns.
Im dichten Wald fuhren wir dann bei einer Abzweigung links und es wurde immer unwegsamer, bis wir an einer engen Stelle doch wenden mussten. Also alles zurück zur Abzweigung und den anderen Weg nehmen.
Zwei Fahrverbote hatten wir angetroffen, scheiss egal einfach durchfahren, eine Strassen-Sperre kurzerhand aufgemacht und Rolf fuhr mal direkt zur Brücke runter. Freundlich wurde er auf das Fahrverbot hingewiesen und musste wieder zurück fahren. Wir parkten dann schlussendlich in einem Waldstück bei der Absperr-Schranke.
Die netten Tour-Guides hatten auf uns gewartet, obwohl wir 20 Minuten zu spät waren. In der Nähe wütete noch ein Waldbrand. Schon bei der Hinfahrt kam uns ein Krankenwagen mit Blaulicht entgegen.
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The content cannot be displayed because it is no longer available. Im Hotel angekommen kurz eingecheckt und dann nach einer guten Restaurant gefragt. Rolf wollte sich noch einen Kaffee aus dem Automaten holen. Lustigerweise lief der gut duftende Kaffee zuerst raus und erst danach hat der Automat den dazu notwendigen Becher platziert.
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Den 8er hatten wir noch gute Nacht geflüstert und danach die übliche Besprechung des nächsten Tages durchgeführt, geduscht und sind dann müde mit vielen Eindrücken ins Bett gefallen.
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Wir räuberten über die Strassen, Feldwege und manchmal mussten wir auch umdrehen, obwohl alle drei NAVIs da durch wollten
Unser Ziel war "Portugal dos Pequenitos", dies ist ein Miniaturland von Portugal.
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An der Universität angekommen war es nur noch einen Katzensprung zum Garden Martins. Der strenge Aufstieg hatte sich definitiv gelohnt. Die Aussicht auf die Gartenanlage von oben war grandios.
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28. Mai 2024 - Dienstag- Tag 11
Das Frühstück konnten wir in unserem Viersterne-Hotel nicht wirklich einnehmen. Im Eingangsflur zu den kleinen Zimmern befand sich noch eine ebenso winzig Kochnische. Um 8:00 Uhr war Tagwache und fast alle machten sich für das Frühstück im nahegelegenen Supermarkt Mercento bereit. Irgendwie war Josy und Rolf noch nicht hungrig, jedenfalls hatten wir beide noch nicht gesehen.
Wir vertrieben uns die Wartezeit mit der Besichtigung des Pools und des Partyraumes unterhalb des Pools. Mehrere Runden Tischtennis verkürzten die lange Wartezeit, bis die beiden schlaftrunken zu uns gestossen sind.
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Vor der Markthalle parkten wir unsere Fahrzeuge standesgemäss auf den offiziellen Parkplätzen.
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Na ja, ist ja Thomas Karre...
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Très beau rapport. Il y a toujours quelque chose à faire sur la 8, ce sont des véhicules anciens et les composants vieillissent et deviennent fragiles, voire tombent en panne.
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Nach dem Stammtisch ging es für Martin und mich noch kurz zur Motorworld in München. Die E-Kiste musste noch für die Rückreise vollgeladen werden und drinnen haben wir uns noch über die hohe Qualität einer Chinesischen Fahrzeugflotte gewundert. Von Vorne sieht das Fahrzeug aber grässlich aus, Innen echt Top gemacht.
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Der Weg führte uns dann nach Nazaré...
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Der Weg zum 8er war leicht gefunden und Thomas konnte sich dort kaum vor Lachen halten. Die Rückscheibe von Rolfs 8er war total verschmiert mit Vogelkot. Nun ja kurze Zeit später verzog sich Thomas Freude, denn auch seine ganze Motorhaube war mit Vogeldreck verschissen. "Hans im Glück" und unsere Wenigkeit blieben von dieser Misere verschont. Nun ja, zum zweiten Mal eine Waschanlage angefahren und der Dreck war schnell ordentlich entsorgt.
Die Fahrt ging dann weiter nach Coimbra
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In Peniche angekommen hatten wir unsere 8er auch standesgemäss direkt am Meer parkiert. Die drei Orte Ericeira, Peniche und Nazaré sind sehr bekannte Surfer-Paradiese, da es hier immer windig ist und der Wellengang des Meeres teilweise extrem hoch ist.
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Der auf der gegenüberliegender Strassenseite befindliche Aussichtsbereich war extrem windig und an den Klippen waren auch keine Geländer oder etwas ähnliches vorhanden.
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In Ericeira besichtigten wir noch das Städtchen und die doch interessanten Shops mit Souvenirs und diversen Pflänzchen
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27. Mai 2024 - Montag- Tag 10
Die Sabine feierte heute ihren Geburtstag und wir wurden auch gleich während dem Frühstück zum Abendessen von ihr eingeladen. Tolles Mädel
Auf dem Tagesprogramm stand eine lange Küstenfahrt in Richtung Ericeira, Peniche, Nazaree. Das Frühstück im moov Hotel in Lissabon hatten wir genossen und kurz vor 11 Uhr sattelten wir auch unsere Pferde.
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Noch ein paar Eindrücke von diesem Strand in Ericeira
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Die Strandbar musste dann auch noch geprüft werden. Das Eis war lecker und die Bedienung auch nett.
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Die Fahrt führte uns auf einen schon sehr gut besuchten Parkplatz und wir konnten uns noch ein Paar Plätze sichern.
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Wir nahmen dann draussen auf der windigen Terrasse Platz und ein nettes Schweizer Mädel überliess uns noch ihren zweiten Tisch mit Stühlen.
Nach der Stärkung sind wir dann gemütlich der Küste entlang zum Hotel moov in Lissabon zurück gefahren. An der Uferseite hatte es schon bemerkenswerte Gebäude, seht mal selbst...
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The content cannot be displayed because it is no longer available. Auf Empfehlung der Hotel-Reception sind wir dann noch zu Fuss an die Strand-Promenade marschiert und suchten uns ein gemütliches Restaurant.
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