Selling. Where do I start?

I had a mate who a couple of years ago bought an Aston Martin Vantage V12 NEW. He had so much reliability and quality issues with it he got rid of it at a significant loss. They will EAT your money!!!

I sure hope it's a storage and not a financial issue why you need to get rid of your E31 in order to get an Aston Martin or the Honda.
If it's for the money see the posting above

Oh well, if someone likes the 8, he will probably also like the Aston.
In my opinion is the Aston the only step........ and thats the question that I am trying to answer for my self, since more then a year, is it really a step up......

But of course, I would never ever give my 8, since the time of the 8 Series in "superb condition" is just ahead.

I really spend quit some time on the resurch about the Aston, V8 Vantisch or the DB7... but I came not to a end yet
What scares me, is the Quality of the technice and the price for it. It's not so that I couldn't afford to bay the Aston, but I dont like to see my money ..... by by for silly things, therefore I am still checking and keep a eye on it.

But a Honda... yea mmmhh, Honda remains a Japanese Car.... thts never the same, right

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since the time of the 8 Series in "superb condition" is just ahead.

Hi Fredi,

I am wobbling a bit at the moment as well but your comment has intrigued me, can you expand on your thoughts behind this comment please.

Cheers
Graham

Only thing that would make me consider selling my 8 is a V12 Lamborghini.
looked at some Murcielago's and that is the best sounding car in the world.

but if you are selling, make sure you take proper pictures for the ad after a good cleaning.

If you deep down really don't want to sell it, take crappy phone pictures of a dirty messy car.

Zitat von Nifty50;101236

Hi Fredi,

I am wobbling a bit at the moment as well but your comment has intrigued me, can you expand on your thoughts behind this comment please.

Cheers
Graham

I think he means that the e31 marked is about to split.
You can have run down, high mileage "bad" cars for next to nothing, but a car in pristine condition will increase in value.

Lets assume 50% of the 8's are gone, another 25% is in questionable condition.
Prices have dropped, kid's ect have been able to buy 8's but not maintain them.
A vast majority of the current 25% questionable cars will soon be gone, and quite a few of the rest are lightly to follow.

In 10 years time the 8 will probably be quite rear, and owning a pristine one may actually be be quite valuable.

Just to add to Angus's point, I knew someone who bought a new V12 DB7 and also had terrible problems with it. I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. If you're going to burden yourself with a car like that, you may as well make it a Vanquish.

Zitat von Noggie;101244

I think he means that the e31 marked is about to split.
You can have run down, high mileage "bad" cars for next to nothing, but a car in pristine condition will increase in value.

Lets assume 50% of the 8's are gone, another 25% is in questionable condition.
Prices have dropped, kid's ect have been able to buy 8's but not maintain them.
A vast majority of the current 25% questionable cars will soon be gone, and quite a few of the rest are lightly to follow.

In 10 years time the 8 will probably be quite rear, and owning a pristine one may actually be be quite valuable.

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exactly this is currently happening to the E24 cars. No reason why the 8 shouldn't follow.

Zitat von NickF;101250

Just to add to Angus's point, I knew someone who bought a new V12 DB7 and also had terrible problems with it. I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. If you're going to burden yourself with a car like that, you may as well make it a Vanquish.

So still the same with British cars as 30 or 40 years ago?

Zitat von wokke;101251

exactly this is currently happening to the E24 cars. No reason why the 8 shouldn't follow.

I guess it would be fair to say that if this was expressed in graph form the 8 is currently at the bottom of the "U". Some cars like the 70's & 80's Mercedes SL's seemed to miss out the banger section at the bottom and went straight from new to classic, whereas most cars go from new to banger and only when most have disappeared do they become desirable again.

What has been bothering me for a few years is that the V12's (CSi excluded) are viewed as Lemons and the later 840's have become the ones to have. Whilst I have no doubt the V8's are better all round cars, for me, the 8 was only ever about the V12. The 840 was introduced to bring the price down.

It also bothers me that originality doesn't seem to be a big consideration amongst current owners. Whilst I enjoy seeing all the 'pimping' that goes on (and many of them look a lot better) I'm just not sure what "owning a pristine one" actually means any more.

The desirable and valuable E24's all tend to be completely original.

Uk mine is currently for sale on piston heads as I too have an itch. No takers or even nibbles yet but I gues with 165k on the clock it will put a fair few off even though its had all the major work done etc.

I sold my 8 a few years back and replaced it with current shape M3. It is drives well, has reasonable mpg and makes a great noise, as far as looks go the 8 wins hands down.(to be honest i really miss it) I have a friend that had a DB9 and had horrendous bother with it, silly problems like fuel filler cap would not open and central locking that never worked, not to mention the mechanical issues. The aftercare at aston was terrible. I just could not get my head round buying a car like that and it had a Ford key.

Stuart

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It also bothers me that originality doesn't seem to be a big consideration amongst current owners. Whilst I enjoy seeing all the 'pimping' that goes on (and many of them look a lot better) I'm just not sure what "owning a pristine one" actually means any more.

The desirable and valuable E24's all tend to be completely original.

Would upgrading a car with stock BMW parts be 'pimpimg'`
I.e me adding a CSi kit.
Car is still "original", but not as delivered from factory.

Zitat von Noggie;101262

Would upgrading a car with stock BMW parts be 'pimpimg'`
I.e me adding a CSi kit.
Car is still "original", but not as delivered from factory.

No, not at all, the CSi kit is an upgrade. I was thinking more along the lines of vinyl wrapping

Zitat von ukzero;101265

No Noggie - yours is upgraded.

Mine with is numerous DIY alterations would be described as pimped
Those who have tried to buy it from me didn't seem to mind - tho' now I'm actually considering selling, the car park "I've been looking for a good one of these - would you consider......." approaches have suddenly stopped

Zitat von Nifty50;101268

No, not at all, the CSi kit is an upgrade. I was thinking more along the lines of vinyl wrapping

Then we agree.
Stock is not necessary the way it came from the factory in my mind, but that the car is, or within a few hours can be returned to OEM state.

My M3 looks "pimped", but in about 2 hours I can turn the car back to stock.

I will probably do a few more upgrades to mine, and some will be custom, like the interior, though I consider them to be upgrades/modernisations rather than pimping.

I notice the 8's value is still dropping in Norway, to the extent were many very young people have bought them, who cant maintain them so I suspect a few will be lost in the coming years.
At any given time there are 6-15 e31's for sale in Norway, and since I started following the listings it's pretty much the same cars that are for sale all the time, I suspect these cars are the first to be lost, most appear to be well maintained so I'm not sure Norway will see the same increase in value as other countries, there are simply too many cars, and they are all in a good condition.